@gruber Did you have a chance to see how it works for consuming content together with somebody else?

That’s what I’m most curious about … Can you and your wife (or friend or a bunch of friends) watch the same content together using Vision Pro? Sure, SharePlay is there, but that also requires a FaceTime call to initiate SharePlay though somebody did point out that with iOS 17 it’s possible to initiate SharePlay just by bringing your phones together …

Just wondering how easy/seamless the process might be overall …

@vegetarianzombie There’s a whole Reddit thread with info about Windows games that people have gotten to work on a Mac using the Game Porting Toolkit with various levels of success 🙂

https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming/comments/1446hj6/all_working_games_list_game_porting_toolkit/

@ctietze

@davemark Just because I’m curious, I was thinking of using one of the Create ML projects from WWDC and seeing what it spits out for your image 🙂 Will let you know if I actually get it working *and* it does give me a result which looks promising …

@davemark They did have a session this year at WWDC this year which seems perfect for this since they used Create ML to build a succulent plant classifier 🙂

I was thinking that I might be able to use that to identify the plant if they had the model (or their data set) up as a sample. But unfortunately, it doesn’t look like that particular sample project is available …

Here’s the session in case you’re wondering:

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10044/

@_holger You’re welcome 🙂 Only way forward is to help each other out.

@JBaby Well, at least now I know it works relatively well — so thank you🙂 I had no info/data points at all to consider before you responded since I wasn’t sure how reliable/usable it was … Sounds as if it works fine for your own use case.

@JackNutting Cool, thanks 🙂 Will go through that session and also start experimenting as soon as I can set up two iOS 17 devices. This sounds great! Looking forward to seeing how it works …

@JBaby You’re not that old when you consider that I’m 53 — it’s all relative 😀

Appreicate the input — you’re the first person to respond who actually uses it. I’m looking at SharePlay for (kind of) the same thing — the wife and I watch everything together but we want to have as large a display as possible since we are old and have old-eyes 😛 So just wondering how well the SharePlay eco-system works in reality. Hence the question …

None of the stuff we generally use for media consumption — Plex, Infuse, Netflix, Amazon Prime — have SharePlay support and so was wondering where all the SharePlay users were. Now I know … TikTok 🙂

Sometimes, you know something exists (like Xcode Playgrounds) and how to use it, and yet fail to see the possibilities in terms of how you can integrate that thing with your regular workflow 🙂

The “Prototype with Xcode Playgrounds” session was such an experience for me 😛 I watched the session and immediately realized that there were so many ways that I could have used Xcode Playgrounds in the past to make my work easier!

Give it a watch, I’m certain you won’t be disappointed …

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10250/

#Apple #WWDC #WWDC2023 #XcodePlaygrounds #Prototyping

@BobWilliams Me neither, which is one of the reasons I was curious about 🙂 I thought it would be great for watching movies with my wife since that allows us both to have huge screens (instead of a tiny TV) and we generally watch everything together …

But adoption of SharePlay by other developers seemed fairly low to me. Maybe it will pick up after Vision Pro comes out? But then again, that’s a different kettle of fish (or is that can of worms? 😛)

@JackNutting I think I totally missed that one, so thanks 🙂 Now I’m almost tempted to install iOS 17 beta on a couple of devices to see how things go … unfortunately, I believe my usual test device (iPhone X) is not eligible for iOS 17. Figures 😛

@toddunctious Personally, for me the point isn’t the phone call but sharing a movie with somebody. Basically, trying to see if Vision Pro would work for us (my wife and I) in terms of letting us both see the same movie on separate headsets …

Yes, it’s a very niche requirement, but each to their own, right? 🙂

@JackNutting I had kind of dismissed SharePlay after the original announcements since I didn’t think it would fit our use case — believe me, I even considered trying a portable router in a plane so that we’d have a local network to try it 😛

But I did some checking today after you reminded me of it and it appears (and I might be wrong here) that it’s largely tied to FaceTime (and iMessages) still? So if you can’t connect to one of those apps, you can’t use SharePlay is my guess …

But I do hope Apple finds a way to make things work without a network by creating local connections possibly similar to how they use the W1 chips in AirPods and Beats headsets. At least, one can dream, right? 🙂

I’m curious, does anybody use (or have ever used) SharePlay?

When it was announced a couple of years back, I was like “This is Apple’s initiative to bring shared media consumption to their AR headset when it arrives!”. But it doesn’t seem to have gone that way? I don’t think I’ve seen much adoption of it …

I can’t use it personally since it requires FaceTime (at least for video, I think?) and FaceTime does not work in the UAE 😛 Plus, our other use case, sharing videos while on a plane wouldn’t work either …

I know some of the streaming service apps have SharePlay integration but I don’t believe the ones I use, Netflix and Amazon Prime, do 😀

So I’m curious, is anybody else using SharePlay a lot (or even a little bit)?

#Apple #SharePlay #VideoSharing #MediaConsumption

@at Probably 🙂 At least, in my social media circles, that’s the case. I think about the only place where I run into die-hard Android/Google fans are on Reddit … But of course, other people’s experiences probably vary since I lead a very sheltered life 😛

@davemark I think it depends on the game — I saw a YouTube video where I think they talked about “Elden Ring” and mentioned that they were getting like 12 fps on an M1 (I think?) Mac 🙂 They were going to update later after trying it on their Mac with an M1 Max (or Ultra? I forget the details) but it sounded as if it was very sluggish and slow ...

But then some other games seem to run fairly fine … Oh yeah, “Horizon Zero Dawn” was mentioned too and that apparently had dropped frames and artefacts …

Let me see if I can find the right video …

I think it’s this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcYyvzHtJVM

@davemark You’re welcome 🙂

I’m amazed at the number of games they’ve gotten working! I downloaded the Game Porting Kit but haven’t bothered to set it up yet — we’re playing “Diablo IV” and that’s probably eating into a lot of my time, that and WWDC videos 😀

It’s interesting to me how some people see Apple as not being capable of any wrong, and others see it as not capable of doing anything right 😛

Why get so worked up (one way or the other) over a corporation? They are not there to make friends, they are just trying to sell products and make money. Sure, if you love their products, by all means talk about it and how good they are. But don’t get so fanatical that you think that everything they do has to be right. Look at everything critically …

And the same thing applies to fans of Google or Meta too … It’s just that I run across Apple fans way more than I do the others 🙂

#Fans #Fanatics #Antics #Reflections

@davemark Based on a later reply in the thread, I think you got your answers, but there’s also a Reddit thread (if I’m not mistaken — I haven’t visited it but did see it mentioned on YouTube) where they talk about all the games they got to run with the Game Porting Toolkit — “Diablo IV”, “CyberPunk 2077” etc ...

Actually, just did a Google search and here’s the thread 😛

https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming/comments/1446hj6/all_working_games_list_game_porting_toolkit/

@JackNutting Not to be difficult here, Jack, but does SharePlay work in a plane with no WiFi? I had considered this when SharePlay was announced — because I’ve been looking at shared media consumption for a very long time 🙂 We (my wife and I) travel a lot and we actually share an iPad (with shared audio) to watch movies on a plane at the moment since we don’t want to watch in-flight entertainment. So what we’re looking for is one (mythical) device which covers all scenarios.

Again, I realize that my use cases not the common use cases (and no, I’m not trying to be intentionally difficult). But my original point was that Apple did not stress shared consumption when they introduced Vision Pro — it was all about one person doing things, not a family (or several friends) doing anything together.